The 99 Logo

Page 1 of 3 1, 2, 3  Next

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Chucky?!

Post by PDT on Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:02 am

javascript:emoticonp('Razz')


I used an actual picture! Thats funny.

PDT

Posts : 169
Join date : 2011-10-19
Age : 55
Location : PA-02

Back to top Go down

Re: The 99 Logo

Post by kefranklin on Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:07 am

A picture of Madoff under "house arrest" at his mansion! That might motivate people! Or Enron execs mocking a homeless man. That kind of thing. Topical, current. Or did we want simple, like the silhouette?

kefranklin

Posts : 86
Join date : 2011-10-18
Location : VA2

Back to top Go down

Re: Turkey

Post by PDT on Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:13 am

I thought it was our national bird. What would Thanksgiving be without it?

Re: Franklin

Man of many talents. Working class hero.

Re: Eagles

Ain't going to the Super Bowl this year, that's for sure.

PDT

Posts : 169
Join date : 2011-10-19
Age : 55
Location : PA-02

Back to top Go down

Re: The 99 Logo

Post by astramari on Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:41 am

Partial to horses, myself. Majestic, much better than an 'ass', more agile than an elephant and VERY American, I think.

astramari

Posts : 20
Join date : 2011-10-19
Age : 44
Location : Rock Island, IL

Back to top Go down

The Turkey is Delicious...

Post by astramari on Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:44 am

And, while I agree with you in sentiment...I can't eat our National Bird for Thanksgiving. Bald Eagle does not look scrumptious stuffed with croutons...

But, it wasn't dumb, at all.

How bout the American Flag in the shape of the Liberty Bell?

kefranklin wrote:Dumb idea, tossing it out there though.

Someone stated they liked Ben Franklin as our patron saint? Well Franklin wanted the Turkey to be our national bird. It's a real fighter and it's common (as in common man).

Of course critics will have a field day with it, which might be why Franklins idea wasn't adopted. But still, it is a symbol of every-man in its way.


TRIVIA TIME

Franklin's Letter to His Daughter (excerpt)

"For my own part I wish the Bald Eagle had not been chosen the Representative of our Country. He is a Bird of bad moral Character. He does not get his Living honestly. You may have seen him perched on some dead Tree near the River, where, too lazy to fish for himself, he watches the Labour of the Fishing Hawk; and when that diligent Bird has at length taken a Fish, and is bearing it to his Nest for the Support of his Mate and young Ones, the Bald Eagle pursues him and takes it from him.

"With all this Injustice, he is never in good Case but like those among Men who live by Sharping & Robbing he is generally poor and often very lousy. Besides he is a rank Coward: The little King Bird not bigger than a Sparrow attacks him boldly and drives him out of the District. He is therefore by no means a proper Emblem for the brave and honest Cincinnati of America who have driven all the King birds from our Country...

"I am on this account not displeased that the Figure is not known as a Bald Eagle, but looks more like a Turkey. For the Truth the Turkey is in Comparison a much more respectable Bird, and withal a true original Native of America... He is besides, though a little vain & silly, a Bird of Courage, and would not hesitate to attack a Grenadier of the British Guards who should presume to invade his Farm Yard with a red Coat on."

astramari

Posts : 20
Join date : 2011-10-19
Age : 44
Location : Rock Island, IL

Back to top Go down

LOL, don't HATE...

Post by astramari on Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:46 am

I don't want to post from my work pc and this apple is kicking my ass.

I posted to Ken about using the American Flag in the shape of the Liberty Bell, how does that grab you? And, no, I don't have a picture, but I bet you have a GREAT imagination and with your unparalleled graphic skills, you could come up with something representative... Wink

PDT wrote:javascript:emoticonp('Razz')


I used an actual picture! Thats funny.

astramari

Posts : 20
Join date : 2011-10-19
Age : 44
Location : Rock Island, IL

Back to top Go down

Re: The 99 Logo

Post by kefranklin on Fri Oct 21, 2011 5:14 pm

I know its not colonial, but a bridge! Someone mentioned building bridges in a post and it hit a light bulb in me. An outline of the US spanned by a bridge. A clever graphic artist could possible make the bridge be a stylized 99. Bridging America!! It sets the perfect tone of unity.

Colonial is nice, but we aren't a history club, we are forging a future.

Edited to Add:

Someone said it should be the Brooklyn Bridge. (And for a large version, maybe a little liberty bell hidden in it.)

kefranklin

Posts : 86
Join date : 2011-10-18
Location : VA2

Back to top Go down

Re: Bridge

Post by PDT on Fri Oct 21, 2011 8:16 pm

We do have the Benjamin Franklin Bridge here in Philly. Beautiful bridge it is. I'll try to post some pictures.

We also have the Walt Whitman Bridge for all you poetry fans.

-Paul

PDT

Posts : 169
Join date : 2011-10-19
Age : 55
Location : PA-02

Back to top Go down

A Flag

Post by Jenye on Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:40 pm

If there are no objections, I would like to propose a flag.

I see for a flag a jet black field with a circle of 13 stars. The stars, of course, represent the original 13 colonies which created the constitution. They HATED corporations .. and bankers had the kind of respect that most people would wipe from the bottom of their shoes.

The black field, of course, represents the darkness which we oppose. The corporate media which keeps us in the dark, the bankers who use lies and subterfuge to hustle complex loan agreements that even a team of expert lawyers would have trouble wading through. The darkness of the spirit , which has been caused by too many needless death's, too many uneducated students, too many sick and elderly that are not cared for. All to protect the profits of corporations which pay NOTHING in income tax.

In the center of the field of stars, I should like to propose a simple symbol. One which looks the same regardless of whether the flag is held vertically or horizontally. There are a few symbols which can achieve this... the circle, the plus sign, the pentagram, the disk.

I propose that in the center of that field of 13 stars we place the image of a large orb, to symbolize that we stand together in the light of truth...and we bring a very bright light to shine on the corruption that has destroyed the country we love.

The idea for this flag is simple. It carries no slogan's or parts of slogans...yet its meaning has the chance of striking fear into the hearts of the 1%...fear which may very well translate into positive action.

The beauty of this flag, of course, is that it can easily be placed on black t shirts and worn in protests when the weather permits.

At other times, the flag can be placed on mugs, mouse pads, hats and aprons... and we can use cafe press to make them...with all proceeds going to help the movement. (unless somebody can make them themselves for a cheaper price?)

Lets face it...sooner or later we will have to raise money... and getting the idea of a simple design into the public consciousness is a grand way to do it. With all the thousands marching and protesting, the sudden appearance of signs and such which carry this symbol...of a black field with 13 white stars surrounding a white sun (I chose black because its the cheapest color and templates can be easily made ... just need some large stick on stars ...which anyone can get cheap from a craft store, a round lid or other surface to block the paint ...and a can of black spray paint...viola...you've got a sign. Total cost : maybe $5 Thats assuming you don't have any wood or cardboard laying about.

This is just a suggestion. Maybe you guys want to go in another direction. Me? I like going with simple images, as I have found them to be far more powerful than slogans. The reason is... if enough people are carrying the symbol, the media will want to know what it means.

This creates a marvelous opportunity to talk about how the original framers of the constitution fought for liberty and justice for all, but this government has drifted away from it...all in order to create a situation where the corporations and the bankers and the rich get the gold mine...and the rest of us get the shaft.

At that point, you are already well into an interview...and can go on to talk about the issues you care about...healthcare, education, energy, the environment...whatever you like. All that is needed is to remember that the theme of whatever you say should be that liberty and justice for all no longer exists...and it can't exist as long as there is a class system in america.

QED... you've just gotten the message out... and it was THEIR idea to interview you, wasn't it ???
Or was it ?? Smile

You see the power of symbols ?

Jennifer Warren



PDT wrote:Not sure it does it for me. I think because it is an image of George Washington. I know he was the first president, and the first military leader, but I'd rather have an image that doesn't conjure up either of those. As I stated elsewhere, I like Benjamin Franklin. If we use a person, I'd rather it be him. We could also maybe use an image of the Liberty Bell or something. Anybody else have thoughts on this?

Jenye

Posts : 79
Join date : 2011-10-20
Age : 60
Location : 1st Congressional District Washington

https://www.facebook.com/howlingpost

Back to top Go down

Please, no dead guys

Post by nobud on Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:35 am

There are racial implications for using dead Caucasian guys in logos, in my opinion.

nobud

Posts : 82
Join date : 2011-10-18
Location : CO-04

Back to top Go down

Agreed

Post by Jenye on Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:06 am

Thats why the use of a simple symbol is better.

Teri Bidwell wrote:There are racial implications for using dead Caucasian guys in logos, in my opinion.

Jenye

Posts : 79
Join date : 2011-10-20
Age : 60
Location : 1st Congressional District Washington

https://www.facebook.com/howlingpost

Back to top Go down

GEORGE WASHINGTON-TOWN DESTROYER

Post by Unity on Sat Oct 22, 2011 6:21 am

From the website of the Native people who practice the oldest living democracy from which the US constitution "borrowed":

"The Onondaga and all of the Haudenosaunee saw the colonists grow and unite to become a new government called the United States of America. Their first President was George Washington. In the late 1700's, the Haudenosaunee stood in the way of westward expansion of the new Republic. Therefore, he ordered the termination of the Haudenosaunee and sent General Sullivan on a campaign to do so.

In 1778, General Sullivan burned our villages and crops (corn fields took 3 days to completely destroy). The Haudenosaunee took notice of the new President's actions. Before the Haudenosaunee took action against the villages of the United States, George Washington was given a name. That name is Hanadagywus. Hanadagywus translates to, "Town destroyer." Since that day, the Haudenosaunee have referred to the President of the United States as Hanadagywas."

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Unity

Posts : 15
Join date : 2011-10-20

Back to top Go down

Another possibility

Post by Ramon on Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:25 pm

All interesting suggestions! Thinking of a black background made me go to the famous Apollo 11 shot of Gaia from space. Using the whole planet as the symbol emphasizes the global awakening that's occurring. By turning the image almost 180 degrees, the cloud swirls suggested a number 9. I added our parent star because that's where our future lies. Here is a first draft.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Ramon

Posts : 8
Join date : 2011-10-19

Back to top Go down

Re: The 99 Logo

Post by Jenye on Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:42 pm

Its pretty good...except for one thing...the "99" isn't clear when the flag is on its side. One of the key aspects of heraldry is that all elements should be clear whether a flag is displayed vertically or horizontally. Additionally, while the picture is quite nice, it too changes when it lays on its side. As for the solar flare, elements other than the dominant element are, in heraldic design, placed in the upper left hand corner...which places them closest to the pole and thus reduces the chance of them touching the ground when a flag is taken down.

Heraldric design uses all solid colors and geometric shapes. I do like the idea of the sun in the center, tho I'm not a fan of using a lot of colors. I like things to be very clearly seen and understood from a long way off. I want people to know who we are well in advance of our arrival.

This is why my suggestion for a flag was so basic. So stark. Using only black and white as colors...because there is no question about whether or not what we want falls in some "Gray" area. The large white disk? The Symbol of the sun... which shines on everyone...And its light is the light of truth...for we speak the truth. If you would like to put a slogan on a t shirt, it can be easily done... just make the t'shirt black, slap a white disk over the pocket...and put your slogan on the back. We are the 99! I vote ! Where's the pizza? Whatever.

Simplicity is the best...but we also need to draw people in...and make them ask "What does this mean?"...because it is only then that we can establish a dialog...and before you know it... you've got more people on your side...helping the movement in any way they can.

And this should be our goal with a flag...to grow the movement.

Jennifer Warren


Ramon wrote:All interesting suggestions! Thinking of a black background made me go to the famous Apollo 11 shot of Gaia from space. Using the whole planet as the symbol emphasizes the global awakening that's occurring. By turning the image almost 180 degrees, the cloud swirls suggested a number 9. I added our parent star because that's where our future lies. Here is a first draft.
[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Jenye

Posts : 79
Join date : 2011-10-20
Age : 60
Location : 1st Congressional District Washington

https://www.facebook.com/howlingpost

Back to top Go down

As seen on teh internets:

Post by 43north on Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:32 pm

A "non dead white guy" logo: (I've no connection to the website or retailer)

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

43north

Posts : 12
Join date : 2011-10-21
Location : NH-1, ME-1 depending on the day

Back to top Go down

Re: The 99 Logo

Post by Alex on Sun Oct 23, 2011 12:52 pm

Personally I believe the 99 Logo should be representative of THE 99%. Which is actually a global statistic, I believe the actual American statistic is closer to 85%....
Too much Americana in symbolism will lead people outside of the USA to believe we don't care less about them. It should be a nation neutral thing.
It can also be interpreted as Americans forcing their leadership onto others.. A trait which I'm sure most in this movement if not all is something that we would wish to change.... Past experience of this practice hasn't actually resulted in any great results.

Alex

Posts : 13
Join date : 2011-10-23
Age : 60
Location : France

Back to top Go down

Thirteen Stars

Post by Joe Steel on Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:11 pm

I think what we are trying to do was anticipated by the Founders:

...the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

They empowered us to do it and we should recognize that right with our logo. We might think of using the thirteen stars of the first flag as a symbol of our devotion to first principles.

Joe Steel

Posts : 155
Join date : 2011-10-19
Age : 67
Location : MO-01 Westport

http://thejoesteelblog.blogspot.com

Back to top Go down

Re: The 99 Logo

Post by Alex on Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:35 pm

Joe Steel wrote:I think what we are trying to do was anticipated by the Founders:

...the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

They empowered us to do it and we should recognize that right with our logo. We might think of using the thirteen stars of the first flag as a symbol of our devotion to first principles.

Again... Americana !! It's a global struggle and you guys didn't invent either this movement nor democracy....

Alex

Posts : 13
Join date : 2011-10-23
Age : 60
Location : France

Back to top Go down

99 and nothing else

Post by PDT on Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:57 pm

How bout we just use the number 99 and nothing else? I think that pretty much says it all.

PDT

Posts : 169
Join date : 2011-10-19
Age : 55
Location : PA-02

Back to top Go down

Re: The 99 Logo

Post by Alex on Sun Oct 23, 2011 2:00 pm

PDT wrote:How bout we just use the number 99 and nothing else? I think that pretty much says it all.

I'd go with that.... In some sort of shield, the globe or whatever background.... Very universal and impossible to pin down yo a single nation......

Alex

Posts : 13
Join date : 2011-10-23
Age : 60
Location : France

Back to top Go down

SLAVES UNDER GEORGE WASHINGTON'S HOUSE

Post by Unity on Sun Oct 23, 2011 2:08 pm

The current logo of the nation's first president -(known as "Town Destroyer" by the Native founders of democracy on this continent) clearly needs to change. Why all the obsession with colonial references? Colonial=slavery. Colonial=oppression of women.

I extend my hand to all here who are interested in moving forward with human evolution, beginning with the acknowledgment that racism is at the heart of the economic system built on stolen land with stolen people, some of whom were forced to dwell under the home of the United State's first president...how much more clear can it be that we in this time are being asked to confront the horrific realities that have brought us to this moment and move together, united in truth telling and justice FOR ALL?

PHILADELPHIA — Archaeologists unearthing the remains of George Washington's presidential home have discovered a hidden passageway used by his nine slaves, raising questions about whether the ruins should be incorporated into a new exhibit at the site.

The underground passageway is just steps from the Liberty Bell and Independence Hall. It was designed so Washington's guests would not see slaves as they slipped in and out of the main house. "As you enter the heaven of liberty, you literally have to cross the hell of slavery," said Michael Coard, a Philadelphia attorney who leads a group that worked to have slavery recognized at the site. "That's the contrast, that's the contradiction, that's the hypocrisy. But that's also the truth."

Washington lived and conducted presidential business at the house in the 1790s, when Philadelphia was the nation's capital. Quandary for exhibit planners The findings have created a quandary for National Park Service and city officials planning an exhibit at the house.

They are now trying to decide whether to incorporate the remains into the exhibit or go forward with plans to fill in the ruins and build an abstract display about life in the house. Making that decision will push back the building of the exhibit, which had been slated to open in 2009.

But the oversight committee won't rush into construction, said Joyce Wilkerson, the mayor's chief of staff. "We never thought we'd be faced with this kind of decision," she said. "We would've been happy to have found a pipe! And so we don't want to proceed blindly or say, 'This isn't in the plan.'" Rep. Bob Brady, D-Pa., was so moved when he visited the site last week that he declared: "We need to rethink what we're doing here." "It's astounding, absolutely astounding," Brady said. "I'm going to fight to keep it open, I'll tell you that much." More discoveries than expected Aside from the passageway, archaeologists have uncovered remnants of a bow window, an architectural precursor to the White House's Oval Office, and a large basement that was never noted in historic records.

"We actually found a lot more of the remains of the President's House than anyone expected. Myself included," said Jed Levin, an archaeologist with the National Park Service. Thousands of visitors have been drawn to the ruins, standing on a small wooden platform to gaze down at the house's brick and stone foundation. The public response spurred officials to continue the excavation until at least July 4; it began in March and had been scheduled to end last month. Archaeologists have served as guides, answering visitors' questions.

Cheryl LaRoche, a cultural heritage specialist, said she enjoys educating people about how even a prominent statesman like Washington could own slaves. "We've been striving to present a balanced view of history that stands apart from what's been taught in history books," LaRoche said. Most of Washington’s slaves lived at his Mount Vernon estate in Virginia. When Washington died in 1799, he had more than 300 slaves. In his will, he arranged for them to be freed after the death of his wife. Change of plans?

Before the ruins were unearthed, officials had planned an exhibit without archaeological findings. The planned design included a framework of the house, LED screens and other audiovisual elements explaining its history, including stories of Washington's slaves. The remains would crumble if left unprotected.

If the design included elevators, ramps or stairs to move visitors down into the newly dug ruins, costs would increase significantly. Coard said he is confident the oversight committee will find the best way to tell the slaves' stories. "Everybody's on board in terms of seriously considering incorporating the architectural dig into the design," Coard said. "The question now is: Is it doable? Nobody is saying, 'No, it shouldn't be done.'" David Orr, an anthropology professor at Temple University, has visited the site at least four times. He posted a note on the President's House Web site urging officials to keep the ruins on display.

"It's just fantastic," Orr said. "I can't tell you enough how exciting it is. For years and years and years I've been trying to promote that kind of public archaeology.

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Unity

Posts : 15
Join date : 2011-10-20

Back to top Go down

Re: The 99 Logo

Post by Alex on Sun Oct 23, 2011 2:15 pm

Unity wrote:The current logo of the nation's first president -(known as "Town Destroyer" by the Native founders of democracy on this continent) clearly needs to change. Why all the obsession with colonial references? Colonial=slavery. Colonial=oppression of women.

I extend my hand to all here who are interested in moving forward with human evolution, beginning with the acknowledgment that racism is at the heart of the economic system built on stolen land with stolen people, some of whom were forced to dwell under the home of the United State's first president...how much more clear can it be that we in this time are being asked to confront the horrific realities that have brought us to this moment and move together, united in truth telling and justice FOR ALL?

I extend mine in return.................... Well said...

Alex

Posts : 13
Join date : 2011-10-23
Age : 60
Location : France

Back to top Go down

ONE HEART

Post by Unity on Sun Oct 23, 2011 2:44 pm

I extend mine in return.................... Well said...[/quote]

Please consider it taken and embraced softly in the Native way. Peace through Solidarity Brother!

"We are instructed to carry love for one another,
And to show great respect for all beings of the earth.
We must stand together, the four sacred colors of man,
as the one family that we are,
in the interest of peace....
Our energy is the combined will of all the people
With the spirit of the natural world,
To be of one body, one heart, and one mind."

Chief Leon Shenandoah (Onondaga)

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Unity

Posts : 15
Join date : 2011-10-20

Back to top Go down

Presentation of American Grievances

Post by Joe Steel on Mon Oct 24, 2011 9:49 am

Alex wrote:
Joe Steel wrote:I think what we are trying to do was anticipated by the Founders:

...the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances

They empowered us to do it and we should recognize that right with our logo. We might think of using the thirteen stars of the first flag as a symbol of our devotion to first principles.

Again... Americana !! It's a global struggle and you guys didn't invent either this movement nor democracy....

Perhaps not but this group is working toward an assembly of Americans and presentation of their grievances.

Joe Steel

Posts : 155
Join date : 2011-10-19
Age : 67
Location : MO-01 Westport

http://thejoesteelblog.blogspot.com

Back to top Go down

Re: The 99 Logo

Post by Alex on Mon Oct 24, 2011 10:09 am

Joe Steel wrote:

Perhaps not but this group is working toward an assembly of Americans and presentation of their grievances.


I may be reading that comment wrongly, but if you want to solely build solutions for America then something needs to be said to this effect on the home page.
Also the number 99 would need to be changed to represent the American figure which I believe is closer to 85%.
This type of insular thinking has been a major contributor to the problems that have driven us to this situation in the first place. I find it very disheartening that this type of thinking towards a global problem is even voiced....

Alex

Posts : 13
Join date : 2011-10-23
Age : 60
Location : France

Back to top Go down

Re: The 99 Logo

Post by Sponsored content Today at 4:17 pm


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Page 1 of 3 1, 2, 3  Next

View previous topic View next topic Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum