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Suggested Additions to the Declaration

Post by Effinbanks on Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:08 pm

1. End the Federal Reserve. No matter what reform or legislation is enacted or repealed, so long as 'our' Federal Reserve, as part of world central banks network, controls our currency, big banks, corps, etc., will find a way around the rules and continue to create increasingly destructive debt bubbles which will further destroy our and the world's economy. See 'Athens' today (literally). That's us in another few months... See 'Bank of No. Dakota' for alternative. No. Dakota was spared collapse in 2008. These provide good intros:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvTDTL55K1U


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qIhDdST27g


2. Forbid even 1 cent of taxpayer debt to be contributed towards the cost of bailing out banks and corporations who, even if reduced in size, will take destructive risks if they know the government will back if they fail.

3. Mandate financial literacy programs in K-12.

Keep up the exceptional effort, and thanks for articulating our demands so well.

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Re: Suggested Additions to the Declaration

Post by Jenye on Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:07 am

Effinbanks wrote:1. End the Federal Reserve. No matter what reform or legislation is enacted or repealed, so long as 'our' Federal Reserve, as part of world central banks network, controls our currency, big banks, corps, etc., will find a way around the rules and continue to create increasingly destructive debt bubbles which will further destroy our and the world's economy. See 'Athens' today (literally). That's us in another few months... See 'Bank of No. Dakota' for alternative. No. Dakota was spared collapse in 2008. These provide good intros:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvTDTL55K1U


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qIhDdST27g


2. Forbid even 1 cent of taxpayer debt to be contributed towards the cost of bailing out banks and corporations who, even if reduced in size, will take destructive risks if they know the government will back if they fail.

------ >>> I would word this as ... any bank or corporation deemed too big to fail shall be nationalized. No bailouts, we just take over. By doing this, the Government will vastly reduce the strain on the economy of the people...and create an opportunity for revenue which may be used on behalf of the needs of the people...Healthcare, Education, Energy, the Environment, Affordable housing and other issues may be dealt with by taking over corporations which threaten the economy of the USA...and yes, that includes banks as well.



3. Mandate financial literacy programs in K-12.

I fully agree with this...however, I would incorporate a mandate for training in math and science which makes a high school diploma something which establishes a readiness to enter the workforce. This means training in mathematics to a level which makes electronics (up to and including class A computer certification, TV / Radio repair or equivalent) , Plumbing , Construction , and other Vocational professions (such as cooking or whatever).

The entire idea of Vocational Education came up because skills which used to be a part of a High School education were eliminated. They were eliminated because kids were being given passing grades in grade school simply to get them out of a teacher's hair. Accordingly, they wound up being bumped up the line until they arrived (and still do) in High School - barely able to read and incapable of performing more than the most basic of math skills. And what happens to such kids? They wind up learning that they have two choices...flip burgers or sell drugs...and selling drugs pays a helluva lot better.

And what happens then? They wind up either dead or in prison. And whichever happens, its our fault...because we never trained them for anything else.

Time to change that.



Keep up the exceptional effort, and thanks for articulating our demands so well.

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Repeal DOMA

Post by Adam Brabant on Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:19 pm

One suggestion is the immediate repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act and the nationwide legalization of gay marriage.

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Legalization of Industrial Hemp

Post by Adam Brabant on Wed Oct 26, 2011 2:35 pm

Industrial hemp for years has been demonized due to its close relative marijuana. Hemp is actually significantly different than marijuana in many key ways. First the THC content is so small that you would die of smoke inhalation before you got hi from smoking hemp. Secondly hemp plants have both male and female reproductive organs whereas with recreational marijuana the male plants are removed from the population in order to increase the THC content of the plants. Hemp produces four times as much pulp for paper production per acre than timber. The paper produced from hemp can be turned from a light beige color to white using hydrogen peroxide instead of bleach. Once hydrogen peroxide is used the output is dirty water, instead of dirty bleach. Hemp also absorbs four times as much carbon dioxide per acre than timber, and grows much much faster. Hemp can be used to restart closed paper plants in Maine, or textile mills in the the Carolinas. Hemp seeds and hemp oil are very healthy for humans to consume and due to the minute THC content there is absolutely no risk of getting hi from consuming hemp oil or hemp seeds. It would also be worthwhile to examine if hemp fed cows are healthier for humans to consume and if those hemp fed cows produce less methane than traditionally fed cows. Hemp also produces more enzymes to produce ethanol than corn per acre. Each year our Government pays farmers not to farm to maintain stable grain prices, instead we should cut those subsides and allow those farmers to grow this amazing plant.

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Re: Suggested Additions to the Declaration

Post by kclaytor on Fri Oct 28, 2011 6:40 am

I agree with the call to end the Federal Reserve. It is a private bank controlled by the too big to fail banks. The function of deciding how much money to print in order to not have too much inflation or deflation can be handled by a government agency rather than by a private bank.

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I fully agree

Post by Jenye on Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:00 am

I fully agree. I even have a slogan for the Industrial Hemp movement "Legalize Profit" ... Then put a picture of one of the thousands of hemp products with it. Perhaps a Chair. Maybe even something sinister like a small tree next to it. Not a hemp tree, mind you... a bamboo tree. People will ask what it means and you can explain...that way, you get the word out without coming off like some sort of weirdo who is trying to get marijuana legalized.

How you would sell the idea otherwise, I have no idea.


Adam Brabant wrote:Industrial hemp for years has been demonized due to its close relative marijuana. Hemp is actually significantly different than marijuana in many key ways. First the THC content is so small that you would die of smoke inhalation before you got hi from smoking hemp. Secondly hemp plants have both male and female reproductive organs whereas with recreational marijuana the male plants are removed from the population in order to increase the THC content of the plants. Hemp produces four times as much pulp for paper production per acre than timber. The paper produced from hemp can be turned from a light beige color to white using hydrogen peroxide instead of bleach. Once hydrogen peroxide is used the output is dirty water, instead of dirty bleach. Hemp also absorbs four times as much carbon dioxide per acre than timber, and grows much much faster. Hemp can be used to restart closed paper plants in Maine, or textile mills in the the Carolinas. Hemp seeds and hemp oil are very healthy for humans to consume and due to the minute THC content there is absolutely no risk of getting hi from consuming hemp oil or hemp seeds. It would also be worthwhile to examine if hemp fed cows are healthier for humans to consume and if those hemp fed cows produce less methane than traditionally fed cows. Hemp also produces more enzymes to produce ethanol than corn per acre. Each year our Government pays farmers not to farm to maintain stable grain prices, instead we should cut those subsides and allow those farmers to grow this amazing plant.

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state by state?

Post by Jenye on Sun Oct 30, 2011 6:11 am

I doubt if you'll ever get that done openly. Its my opinion that the way to do it is the same way that former Senator Phil Graham rammed the "trash banking regs" into federal law. What he did was, he waited until the whole country was focused on the Al Gore v. Bush vote counting debacle...where Bush was opposed to votes being fully and accurately counted because it would mean he wouldn't become president if they were. Yes, he knew the country didn't want him, and said so through his lawyers. And then ...well, you know what happened.

Point is...whilst all that was going on, Senator Phil Graham walked into the Senate with the changes in law he wanted and asked for them to be "attached" to a bill which had absolutely nothing to do with banking or corporate regulations. Why? Because he knew nobody would have time to read it.... and he was right... the Military spending bill went through without a hitch...along with his addition... and we got the shaft.

Immediately afterwards, Senator Graham retired and went to work for UBS, where he ran a scam to help rich folks avoid paying taxes by having UBS agree NOT to notify the IRS of large deposits...and they didn't (a crime). Did he go to jail?

Do you seriously think that the banks would let that happen?

... anyway...

My point is that if you want something which doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of passing the senate...you have to follow his example. Do it in the dead of night when nobody is looking and just attach it to a bill thats too massive for anybody to read through at the last minute prior to a vote. Attach it to some massive military bill (those things are too big to read anyway...thousands of pages) and just make sure your side votes along with the republicans...who never met a military spending bill they didn't like.

QED



Adam Brabant wrote:One suggestion is the immediate repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act and the nationwide legalization of gay marriage.

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